posted 12-29-1999 04:25 PM         

Blend in slightly acidifiec mixed alcohols, let the blender run for 3 or 4 minutes.

Use the sand trap: even the 300 grit will take a while to separate out the grunge. One bottle will leave about 3/8 inch of brown crap on top.

After that, do an A/B standardly: I'v used xylene, my favorite N/P: and then HAVE to use the freezer to effect separation . (Xylene on bottom. )

I always almost see other grunge which agglomerates in the freezer overnite which can then be avoided with judicious siphoning out.

As fer the growing ephedra seen in the outbacks of the sonoran west, you will have to ask the erudite Worlock for his experiences with taming that problem: he was on the trail of an interesting enzymatic assistant there for a while. Then Gemini came by and got him off the scent. Now he just sniffs.......(nevermind.)

posted 12-29-1999 05:12 PM         

Soak and shake in Naptha, let separate, decant, soak and shake left over gunk, let separate, decant, filter gunk for last bit, combine clear Naptha in drying tray and evaporate.

Nice white flakes and powder that chops fine.

Although I am unable to verify it, my assumption is that the white flakes are E, as the originator of the procedure has previoualy claimed. He went on to say it was used as one would suspect and it worked great.

I am somewhat perplexed though, because in spite that others have said E tastes bitter this product looks good, smells good and has a bit of a bland ascerbic taste. Nothing bitter... Plus the Village Idiot has an Ephedra extraction that uses IPA, lye etc, etc, so while I'm not dissn' his method why go to all that trouble if it is as easy as a Naptha soak and evaporation?

Perhaps I'm missing something?

I wonder if using toluene in the same manner would produce E as well as hasten the evaporation time?

posted 12-29-1999 09:02 PM         

Chill bro, I read your post and offered whats happening here (right or wrong) for perspective. If'n you don't want creative dialogue that may spin into other areas that may offer solutions then perhaps you should qualify your questions with a disclaimer that ONLY the answer you want will be excepted. On the other hand did you read my post? I don't end up with "tar-like crud that does not evaporate" I end up with "Nice white flakes and powder that chops fine"

"If you want crud left over from naptha in your lungs, feel free to smoke it..."

No body said anything about smoking anything...

" but I'm looking for extraction methods that aren't gonna leave anything, even if it's 99.9% pure E, in hte product."

Good luck.

"THanks dwarfer for the sand trap method, I heard someone mention an alternative to sand was better."

posted 12-30-1999 08:14 PM         

FUCK YOU.

posted 01-01-2000 09:41 AM         

I understand GIGO but if you're planning on doing a rp/i reaction the product is gonna pass thru naptha or some other solvent after the reaction anyway. Not that it being absent from the reaction wouldn't be desired. Or maybe you're going another route.

Naptha... so it's basified and dissolved in the naptha? Why not gas it for the salt form or add a water layer and hcl to form the salt. Then evap the water.